Jorge Lanata: “The crack must be closed”

“The word came in the delivery of the Martin Fierro 2013 and I limited myself to commenting on what I saw from the stage: the people who greeted me before and no longer did so, myself ceasing to greet the others”, plan Jorge Lanata and kicked off a lengthy interview with Ernesto Tenembaum on the radio with you. “I hate argument from moral authority more than anything in the field of human rights. Let them push me left today ’cause I say we have to close the crack, He’s an idiot. You have a lot of people looking at you and telling you what to do,” he said.

“I think it’s very difficult to forget it, until then I said it was gonna transcend governments and it happenedbut remember that the crack is part of Kirchnerism”. And he noted that the reaction that followed “was just as ultra”. For him, the origin of the crack had only one responsible: Cristina Kirchner. “She decides to divide and choose an enemy which was journalism and that’s how she created a crack from top to bottom, something that then happened again, that’s how it started .”

Tenembaum acknowledged that he had helped build the rift and decided to quit when it was time to continue fighting someone. “I clicked, did you click one?” he asked. “I I described the crack in these Martín Fierro And I never made excuses for the division. We are the Fatherland, the Nation and the people says the K… who am I? What am I This monopolistic idea that you represent everything It does not come from me, but from Kirchnerism, from top to bottom“.

“I lost a lot of friends to crack, like the cartoonist MiguelRep who I would like to recover. I also walked away from Fito Paez there Joaquin Sabinahe got cold because of the way of thinking, not because of any particular discussion,” he recalls.

Concerning the vice-president, he maintained that “she had to be in prison and could not participate in the electoral process. I denounced the K with nobody“, held,

“It’s hard to tell if I fed the crack, so the irrational arguments are fed. I think we are in another place, we give our opinion with concrete data, with facts, a large part of the legal cases have been brought by us”, while he recalled that in PPT (Periodismo Para Todos) both the K and the antiK looked on them.

“The reasoning that every Kirchnerist is a jet is just stupid to generalize, no one could say something like that is true. I have the impression that there are many people who are honest and who believe because ideologically they believe in it. It seems to me that to think since the ultra in one or the other of the two camps is stupid, ”he argued.

Moreover, Lanata proposed that, as an electoral strategy, Horace Rodriguez Larreta He should offer something like this (in reference to crack) in a presidential run-off, if he runs and enters, but not in the first. “I still don’t think it’s on people’s agenda right now. It is obvious that whoever wins, if it is not Kirchnerism, must try to invoke some kind of consensusso there are limits to this consensus”, argued the journalist who argues that because of this search for dialogue “everyone famous me”.

“It always happens that sometimes we say things that we are not satisfied with. I always said that I’m not a clown they hire to liven up their little party. I say what I think and if they disagree, they disagree.”

Lanata also remembered when she Channel 26 (in the program DDT -After all-) wrote an editorial about the acquisition of Newspaper and he also said that he had been denouncing the dictatorship for 20 years. “Let me think,” he pointed out and recalled that “we were throwing dolls at Cristina while you were bullshitting at her house,” he said, referring to the early years of Kirchnerism in the country.

The journalist maintained that at that time he felt like someone who was “in the middle of the fights in the ring while below there are many bathed and combed people who note the blows I give”. Even if he took down firmly: “but I have nothing to do with them”, while adding that “giving a free opinion does not make much sense”, he completed about the users of Twitter that “have no life”.

Tenembaum recalled that “something is going on between the Lanata of the resentful old woman (referring to Cristina) and the one who says to stop with the blind ultra k”. At this, his interlocutor took the glove: “I see anti-K as ruthless with a right-wing, anti-Peronist view that I didn’t like”.

And he remembered his Peronist origins “It is the party that has seated the working class at the tablethis had not happened before, I am from Sarandí and as a boy he was a peronist”. And he ruled on Perón’s doctrine: “As long as there is a poor person in Argentina, Peronism will exist And it seems logical to me that this should happen. Although he added: “I with the Peronism of Perón, I would have been in jail”.

Another of the interesting parts of the interview was when Lanata recalled that for the 1983 elections voted for Ítalo Argentino Luder. “I voted for him, I remember I was writing in a pizzeria in Constitución and I saw the two marches pass, that of Alfonsín and that of Luder. I had to be with the blacks, I’m not from the enlightened middle class“, he recalls, comparing himself to the host of Radio con Vos.

In response to Gustavo Grabia’s question on Why didn’t you investigate Mauricio Macri and invite him to your wedding?Lanata bluntly replied: “If we find Macri or Larreta counting the string in La Rosadita, we’ll report it. At 63, it breaks my balls to explain why I have to invite someone to a private party.

He added: “Also I would have invited him to Massa I’ve known him for 30 years, but he wasn’t going to bridge the marriage of politicians. I don’t want to explain anything, I’m not a civil servant, moreover, I’m a big taxpayer,” he added.

“What do you think of Alberto Fernández?” Tenembaum asked about the president’s last speech opening the last legislative sessions. To which Lanata replied: “It makes me sad, it’s a person who is not in power. That’s a shame, he is deceived by the situation, he only believes that he can be re-elected: he does not see it“, he claimed.

There was also a space to comment Nayib Bukele, the President of El Salvador. “He’s a dictator, this mega prison he made, I wish ours was like that, it’s a villa”, he said sarcastically and completed that “I’m not going to offer the Bukele solution for Argentina”.

And he ended with a topical theme, the terrorist drug violence in Rosario. “I think there must be a Exception StatusI don’t know if this is the solution but the province should intervene if the issue of security is attacked”.